Pettit Trinadad SR Hard Bottom Paint

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16 years 6 months ago #225 by Galileo
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Hello,

Does anyone have a comment about Pettitt Trinada SR Hard Bottom Paint, and a good source for this?


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16 years 6 months ago - 15 years 1 month ago #229 by hayden
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Hi Larry:
Petit Trinidad Bottom Paint is fantastic! It is also very expensive, but it will last many seasons and it is non ablative so it is not wearing off and into the water. On the contrary, it does build up so that’s the price of non ablative. We have used Petit Trinidad since 2001 and several years we stayed in the water and then in June did a short haul and power wash and went right back in; the bottom came out and looked like we had just painted it. We could have easily gone 3 years with no problems. Petit states that, when the boat is hauled and on land for over 1 month, that it will need to be repainted. I have always followed this guideline, BUT, this year, I am thinking of an experiment. I plan to NOT paint, after being in the yard all winter, and then in the spring, hire the yard to simply scuff the existing paint with a sander and launch me. I have plenty of paint, I will simply need to activate the copper or sand off the oxidation that they say happens to the copper when in the yard over a month. Worst case, I have to hire divers over the season, or haul and paint. But this will be my test in the season of 2010 to see if the paint will really work or not work after being in the yard all winter.

Her is a photo of the bottom after a full season of Maryland to Maine, 1500+ miles, no diver all season, and this is what it looks like after a power wash. No flakes, no bare spots, it always looks like this after haul out.
Hayden

Hayden Cochran
IP35-165 Island Spirit
IslandSpirit35.blogspot.com
Rock Hall, MD
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16 years 5 months ago #233 by a Guest
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Larry:

If you are hauling out each winter then I would go with a good ablative. If I was going to keep the boat in the water I would go with a good hard paint for multi-season coverage.

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16 years 1 day ago #366 by Galileo
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Hello again,

Well, prepped the bottom down to its original hard-bottom paint and applied two coats of Pettit Trinad SR. Moved the stands last week and have so far placed one coat on those patches. Will place second coat on those patches next week after storm passes by east-coast.

The thing I noticed about this paint versus previously used soft-bottom paints on two boats now over 23 years is that it applies a lot easier in that its consistency seems to be thinner than soft-bottom paints. Will be able to cover our IP-37 with 1 1/2 gallons when finished.

It may be more costly initially, but it may balance out in long run with less paint needed and ease of application (helps my old back and arms).

I am impressed and it wasn't significantly more costly.


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15 years 9 months ago #432 by Galileo
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Hayden,

How did your bottom paint experiment go this Spring?


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15 years 9 months ago #435 by hayden
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Gerry & Larry:
I am in the water, with only one quart applied as a science project. The one quart did both sides one foot down from the waterline. Then I sanded the entire starboard side and rudder thinking this would expose new copper, and the port side I left untouched as a control side. So far, I cannot find any growth other then the usual slime which brushes right off. I can not tell any difference from one side to the other. So maybe this will work. A haul out will tell, but I will wait ti see if the growth gets bad, so far, it seems to be just fine! I will let you know as I discover more.
Hayden

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IP35-165 Island Spirit
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Rock Hall, MD

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15 years 9 months ago #438 by ssiguaw
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We have used Petit Trinidad SR black on our vessel in Florida and it works very well. The paint usually lasts for about a year before the next bottom job.

However, if you sail to the Caribbean this same bottom paint is ineffective and should NOT be used. We tried to use Petit Trinidad SR black and it was covered with barnacles after 1 month south of St. Thomas. It was totally useless. Petit gave us 6 gallons of paint as compensation and it too was useless after we applied it in Trinidad.

I hope this helps.

Steve
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13 years 3 months ago #1807 by Gigi
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Does anyone know the underwater surface area of a 440 (I assume it is the same as a 460) I need to know this so I know how much Pettit Trinadad SR hard bottom paint to order. It will be expensive as I need to ship it to NZ and cannot afford to ship more than I will need.

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13 years 3 months ago #1810 by hayden
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We use 2 gallons on our IP35 and I would guess, you need 3 if not 4 gallons on a 440. With 4 you would for sure cover it well. With 3 you would need to push or stretch the gallons.
Hayden

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13 years 3 months ago #1811 by Augydoggy
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We use Pettit Trinidad SR red. It was on the boat when we bought it after serving duty in the BVI. The selling brokerage had a diver scrub the bottom every month for a year and the paint was well worn by the time it came to us so we applied two fresh coats with an extra coat on the wear surfaces. Our boat has been in the water for three straight years now. We have a diver give her a scrub as needed but the paint is holding up well. We plan to add a coat this Spring during her first haul-out since we bought her.

When we painted the bottom we bought three gallons from West Marine. After two plus coats we had a half gallon left over. This is on an IP420.

Tom Ward
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13 years 3 months ago #1833 by Augydoggy
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Here's an update on the condition of our Trinidad SR bottom paint. We just pulled the boat for the first time in three years and was only power-washed. It's been 18 months since we had a diver scrub the bottom and replace the anodes. The overall condition of the paint is very good but does show some wear around the water line which is understandable since that gets scrubbed more often. The only barnacles were attached at the forward part of the keel where we had scrubbed the paint off completely by running aground :whistle: . We plan to do a light sanding and add a single coat to the hull and two coats at the water line and other hard wear areas. We'll have to put on a barrier coat and two coats of Trinidad where the fiberglass is exposed.

I also want to report on an anti-fouling paint for metal that we used. It's called PropSpeed (www.propspeedusa.com/). This was also applied three years ago and when seeing the prop for the first time I was impressed. There was some barnacle growth but not enough to cause serious fouling. The cost of the paint is up there with silver and some other precious metals but it definitely works. The company claims up to two years between applications but after seeing this I'm comfortable with stretching that to three. At least here on the Chesapeake.


I prefer not to have the boat pulled every year since we live aboard. The combination of Trinidad SR bottom paint and PropSpeed ensures easy maintenance and long periods in between. I might be wrong but I also believe the hard bottom paint is better for the environment than ablative paint. The PropSpeed is said to be environmentally safe.

Tom Ward
IP420-35
La Vida Dulce


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13 years 3 months ago #1834 by hayden
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This paint is fantastic.we think it will go 4 yrs.
Here is an interesting photo essay of a few yr study.

ipphotos.com/view_ad.asp?Ad_ID=1619

Hayden Cochran
IP35-165 Island Spirit
IslandSpirit35.blogspot.com
Rock Hall, MD

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