Potomac river and chesapeake bay crossing

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10 years 7 months ago #4340 by jmffmj
Just bought an IP 32 and have to sail it down from the Solomons to Norfolk. Haven't sailed in 10 years and heard that it can be rough crossing the mouth of the Potomac. Can anyone tell me how rough it is? Maybe I should go east out into the bay to get across the Potomac entrance. I've been in a couple of storms in my old Dana 24 but this is new to me so any advice will be greatly appreciated.
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10 years 7 months ago #4341 by Augydoggy
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Jim,

If weather is bad, especially strong wind out of the S, you may see up to 6' chop with short period between waves. In those conditions while heading S we usually run under power and try to take the waves at a 45 degree angle. Incoming tide can play a part in that too.

Tom

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10 years 7 months ago #4343 by hayden
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We have crossed the Potomac River heading north and south at least 10 times. Yes it can be the roughtes part of the bay, but nothing your IP 32 cant handle. Waves are usually 1, 2 3 feet max. Here are the tricks. Try to plan your crossing when the current and the winds are going the same direction. Then try to reach SMITH POINT LIGHTHOUSE around slack tide, but this is not really that important. It is just always roughest at the south side due to the deep water of the river flowing up onto and over the Smith Point shallow waters and mixing with the currents in the bay. The biggest problem is when the winds are blowing 15-20 from the south or NW or anything North and then when the current changes (which can run 1-2 knots) if this current flow is opposing the winds, then it is roughest. So just study your tides and currents and tune into your wind directions and plan your crossing. There is no need to go way out to the middle of the bay from from Solomons to cross the Potomac. We run point to point to point. Leave Solomon, turn right, stay EAST of the TARGETS, head for Point Lookout and then run across the mouth for SMITH POINT LIGHT. You can run a course from the Targets directly to SMITH POINT, but if the winds are any thing WEST, then going east of the targets and using the shore for protection gives you calmer waters. After SMITH POINT, turn more to the right and head for your anchorage. We use FLEETS BAY and use DYMER CREEK area. Easy in and out and on a southerly run. Deltaville and Jackson Creek and used a lot, but it they are more out of the way.

Your next day, run DYMER CREEK to Hampton or stop in Whilloughby Bay.

Welcome to the southern Bay. Also, WELCOME TO THE IP FALMILY, you will love the IP 32. A great sailing boat.

Hayden in Charleston SC running MD to Miami and Bahamas

Hayden Cochran
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10 years 7 months ago #4348 by jmffmj
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Thanks for the info. It will help a lot. Other than being cold and maybe wet it should go ok. Dymer creek sounds good for the night anchorage. I've heard others say it was a good stopping off point. It's been a long time, remembering all the little stuff to get on the boat like water, wet gear, food Etc. As for the shallow are near Smith Point, I'll just head for Smith Point light to avoid it if the tides are wrong or high winds.
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10 years 7 months ago #4349 by jmffmj
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TARGETS? I see a danger area on the chart and a prohibited circle area marked obstructions but am unclear about the targets. Can I head direct south from
cedar point ? If I stay east it looks as if I have to cross the bay. Maybe I'm not reading this right, sucks gittin old.

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10 years 7 months ago #4350 by hayden
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The Targets are the circle you are referring to. Just clear the circle and go on either side. I made a mistake. If you stay WEST of the targest, the circle, then you can use the shore for more protection if there is a NW wind.
Just leave Cedar point and head for Smith Point.

Hayden

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10 years 7 months ago #4351 by jmffmj
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Ahh! That clears it up. Nice to know that I'm not too old yet, still got a good 10 years left lol. It's nice to know that there are nice people like you to help when needed. Thanks again for the advice. I close on the boat Friday and will sail it south to Norfolk. Navigation is not my favorite thing so I bought a chart plotter but haven't hooked it up yet. I plan to sail up to Bar Harbor Maine next year for the summer and south after hurricane season. Back and forth till I can't do it anymore lol. Hey! gotta do something after retiring.
Jim

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10 years 7 months ago #4352 by hayden
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Jim
Good for you. This is a great plan. You will love sailing around on your IP. This is a great thing to do, and it is much easier than you first expect. Enjoy the trip and welcome to the IP family.
Hsyden

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10 years 7 months ago #4354 by spinaker75
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Jim,
We are home ported on the Great Wicomico River just south of the Potomac River. A Couple thoughts about heading south from the Patuxent River. The "targets are more active now than they have been in the past. Make sure you are monitoring Ch 16 in the area. The range safety boats will hail you if they need you to avoid the targets. I normally go from Cedar point to the eastern side of the targets then directly to Smith Point. If there are strong NW winds you might want to favor the western shore to get a little bit of a lee. If the winds are from the North west be aware as soon as you pass Point Lookout you will be exposed to about a 30 mile fetch and the wind and wave height will increase. Unless the seas are flat avoid the temptation to cut inside of the Smith Point light. The charts show 7' which seems like plenty for our IPs but the seas can build dramatically as they waves cross the bar. I would recommend Mill Creek off of Ingram Bar as a good anchorage. Between Smith Point and the entrance of the Great Wicomico there are numerous fish traps which you have to avoid. The spider bouy at the entrance to the Great Wicomico River was removed this summer and there is only a small shoal marker marking its former location. If you honor the R2 and R4 bouys you will avoid this shoal

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