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13 years 3 months ago #1987 by Mac
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I'm new to sailing and to many of the systems required by a sail boat. That said, I would like to install 2 solar panels. I'm looking at Kyocera KD140SX-UFBS the low price on these makes me wonder if they are suitable for my marine use. I would also like to install a digital display charge controller and would like some recommendations.

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Mac

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13 years 3 months ago #1988 by PlumBob
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Mac,

I don't know about these specific panels, but I do know that there are LOTS of Kyocera panels in use by sailors. I'll be installing solar next summer (2014) and plan to use Kyocera.

You should get some good ideas here.

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13 years 3 months ago #1990 by Augydoggy
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Mac - We currently have two Kyocera 85w panels and are in the process of adding two 140's to that. We originally went with Kyocera for the larger panels but were talked into Solarworld Sunmodule 140's by our local supplier, MTS in Deale, MD. They mentioned quality of construction and price but I think it's probably a push. For controllers we have two Blue Sky controls, each rated at 25 amps. Our boat was set up with one of these already when we bought it. The factory said you shouldn't mix different size panels on one controller and our total potential output for all four panels is 37 amps. We now have two Blue Sky controllers daisy chained together with a small remote readout mounted at the Nav Station. These controllers need to be mounted close to the batteries rather than the panels because they provide a boost which would be minimized over the longer wire length from the panels. Ours are mounted inside the Nav Station cabinet about 3' from our house bank (see photo).



The two 85's are currently mounted above the Bimini and supported by it's frame. We're having a more robust deck mounted frame built to support all four panels. Each panel will be able to tilt to get higher output through the day. The location over the Bimini is good because it minimizes shadows from the sails, boom and rigging. Even a small shadow on a panel can seriously reduce it's output.

Just for your info.....we've had our two 85w panels mounted on the Bimini frame in some pretty intense wind, sailing in 45 knots, plus several tropical storms and one hurricane at the dock. For the first T storm we took the panels down but left them up after that and didn't have any problems. They do get tied down to the frame to keep them horizontal. I think we'd take them down for anything more than 60 knot winds.

Tom Ward
IP420-35
"La Vida Dulce"
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13 years 3 months ago #1993 by Mac
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Thanks for the help,I was able to sort out several issues I was unsure of, mainly my ability. At this point I think it would be wise for me to find someone on the Texas coast and get an estimate for this work. Currently my plan is to mount two 140W panels on my Kato davits.

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Mac
IP350

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13 years 3 months ago #1994 by hayden
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Mac:
Solar panels and a simple controller is not a hard system to install. I would recommend that you look into add them over your bimini and between the backstays. If that will not work, then go to the davits. I would also recommend that you look at the FLEXCHARGE 25 solar controller
www.flexcharge.com/

You can also buy your own solar panels from this discount location, Art referred us to many years ago:
www.partsonsale.com/

I chose the Mitsubishi Solar Panels as they are rated high.....but they are NOT for marine installs? Really, OK, I installed them on my home, it just happens to be a boat! They have perfromed very well for many years!
www.partsonsale.com/mitsubishisolar.html

Here are some photos of how I fit two full panels over the bimini on our IP35.
ipphotos.com/view_ad.asp?Ad_ID=817

We now have added two more 1/2 panels outside out back stays and it is nearly perfect now.

Here is a photo of that:
2.bp.blogspot.com/-igT8Y3dq0v8/TwJuyrtvB..._20111231_174521.jpg

If you scroll this blog post down, you will see photos of the 4 solar panels we now run over the bimini.
islandspirit35.blogspot.com/2012/01/shar...marco-island-fl.html

Bottom line, SOLAR IS GREAT, we nearly never run the engine for power any more. Solar covers almost all our needs.

Hayden in Hope Town Bahamas

Hayden Cochran
IP35-165 Island Spirit
IslandSpirit35.blogspot.com
Rock Hall, MD

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13 years 1 week ago #2138 by Richard McCarty
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Hayden, we are also thinking about adding solar panels to our IP380. Your installation of the 4 panels looks great - having had it in place for so long, would you do anything differently if you had it all to do over? We have considered an arch, but too expensive right now... also, considered the davits that appear to be the same as yours.... Any further advice is greatly appreciated...

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13 years 1 week ago #2139 by hayden
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Richard:
Having used our solar system for many years now, I would do exactly the same install, placement wise again. Yes, an arch would be nice to have for many reason, but on a smaller boat, this install over the bimini works out just fine. We never took down the bimini, so there is no loss there. I do like the way we added the bows over the top of the bimini and did not cut or puncture the canvas. This allows for removing of the canvas while the solar frame stays in place. It would be good to have a forward down strut of SS tubing making the frame even more secure. But, we have had this rig in some very high winds and rough seas, and no issues as installed.

On the controller side, we have a totally integrated "old school" www.AmplePower.com system installed in 2001 with an EMON manager. This EMON controls the solar controller plus more. If doing it again, I would use the FLEXCHARGE 25 amp controller and have all separate systems. That is one change I would make.

As for the install over the bimimni. Exactly the same. Solar is fantastic, we love it.

Hayden

Hayden Cochran
IP35-165 Island Spirit
IslandSpirit35.blogspot.com
Rock Hall, MD

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