1991 32' Island Packet Shaft Log

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6 years 5 months ago #6687 by Coldrick
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Can anyone advise if it is possible to pull / inspect the shaft log without removing rudder on a 1991 32' Island Packet?

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6 years 5 months ago #6688 by hayden
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Bill:
Yes, you can pull the propeller shaft without dropping the rudder. But, you have to unbolt the stern tube, pull that out to give yourself the angle to pull the shaft out. This is common when replacing the cutlass bearing.

The other trick is to then install the bolts backwards on the stern tube so that the nuts are on the outside. Then cut a slot into the end of the bolt allowing you to hold the bolt with s straight screw driver as you tighten up the stern tube.

One more not. MARK THE STERN TUBE with a chisels or say or scribe so that you know which way it goes back in. These stern tubes are welded at a very light angle and if installed upside down then the motor and prop shaft will not align. If you ever hear of some one needing to do a lot of motor alignment after pulling the stern tube it is because they re-installed the stern tube upside down.

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6 years 5 months ago #6689 by Coldrick
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Thanks. I am looking to close on a '91 IP 32 and the shaft tube appears to be corroded to the point at which at a minimum needs to be pulled and inspected, possibly replaced. No readily apparent leakage is observed.

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6 years 5 months ago #6690 by Coldrick
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6 years 5 months ago #6692 by Brownbear350
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on my 350 I had square washers welded under the heads of the bolt, then they were pushed in from the inside with plenty of sealent behind them. The square washers stopped the bolts from turning as they hit the side of the tube.

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6 years 5 months ago #6693 by hayden
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Bill:
Your photos look like that is a PYI dripless shaft seal. Did the survey call it out? The rusted set screws are what you use to move the disc up against the bellows to seal the system. Spray it all with PB Blaster to looses and then maybe it can be adjusted. Or replace it all with the standard factory stuffing box and packing material.
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6 years 5 months ago #6695 by Coldrick
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Yes, the survey did call it out and it (drip-less) will be possibly replaced especially hose clamps. Would you happen to know what the original prop (3 blade fixed) would have been?

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6 years 5 months ago #6696 by hayden
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I do not know the original prop pitch and size. I am sorry.
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5 years 2 months ago #6921 by stevetrego
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Hayden- I've been searching various post and your name appears quite often. Thank you for contributing your knowledge! Because of it I wanted to see if I could ask for your input on the followiing. 

I have a 2000 IP380 and just replaced the cutlass bearing. I couldn't pull the shaft out due to the rudder but able to squeak the shaft log by it. When I put it back together I noticed still movement of the shaft in the new cutlass. Not sure why I didn't notice the wearing of the shaft before put it appears to be fairly warn where housed by cutlass and is the where the packing was in the stuffing box. Do you have any expereince with this and how far could I go before it becomes a larger issue? I have attached images that show the packing groves. I am on the hard now and not sure if I want to tackle droping the rudder. 

Thank you in advance!
Steve

 
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5 years 2 months ago #6922 by hayden
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Wow! I have not seen that kind of grooves on the prop shaft. I might look into a new shaft. To remove it all you need to remove the stern tube. Then the shaft goes past the rudder.

Looks like the packing nut rubbed the shaft.

Also, maybe the stern tube was pulled and flipped 180 when reinstalled. These stern tubes have a slight angle for up. It could have been put back in upside down. We all hammer absent or marking into the top do it goes back in right.

Hayden

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5 years 2 months ago #6923 by stevetrego
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I was afraid you'd say that LOL. But think you are right. There's the same wear along the area that's inside the cutlass. I was thinking it was just from normal use. It has about 2200 hours on it. I did try to pull the shaft past the rudder but no lock without having to notch the rudder, or remove. You are probably right about the stern tube as that would make sense of a cause due to alignment. Unfortunately it has a mark at both top and bottom or vice versa LOL. I thank you for the quick response!.

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5 years 2 months ago #6924 by stevetrego
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Hayden, do you know if the stern tube with slight angle should be angling in at the bottom when installed or at the top?

Thanks,
Steve

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5 years 2 months ago #6925 by hayden
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I think the stern tubes angle upward. You can get the definitive answer from Bill Bolin via the island-packet-ancestry.com/ website. That service was created to answer exact questions like this. He also can give you specifications for the stern tube and pro shaft on your particular IP model and Hull ID #

You can also email him at
island-packet-ancestry.com/pages/contact-us

Hayden Cochran
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IslandSpirit35.blogspot.com
Rock Hall, MD

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5 years 1 month ago #6926 by stevetrego
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As always I appreciate your help!
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