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10 years 2 months ago #4743
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Hi All,
I am about to make my first trip to the Bahamas from North Carolina. I usually carry my AB 9VL RIB on my Kato davits. We are going to be sailing offshore (inside the Gulf Stream) to south Florida where we will wait for a window to cross to the Bahamas. Here's my question...is it safe to carry the dinghy on well supported davits or will I need to find some way to carry it on deck? I know it will ultimately be my decision, but was wondering if any of you can share your experiences.
I am about to make my first trip to the Bahamas from North Carolina. I usually carry my AB 9VL RIB on my Kato davits. We are going to be sailing offshore (inside the Gulf Stream) to south Florida where we will wait for a window to cross to the Bahamas. Here's my question...is it safe to carry the dinghy on well supported davits or will I need to find some way to carry it on deck? I know it will ultimately be my decision, but was wondering if any of you can share your experiences.
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10 years 2 months ago #4744
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We carry our tender on Kato davits rather than on deck. We have had no problems but you might consider these suggestions: we ran an additional "backstay" of dyneema from the masthead
to the davits terminating with a yoke attached to the davits with soft shackles; we place our fenders between the RIB and the stern as cushions to prevent chafing; we secure the dingy with fiddle block tackle rather than the tie downs that Kato gives you. This is the most important part as the side to side motion at sea requires that the dingy be totally secured to prevent damage to the dingy, stern railing and the davits themselves. Don't sail an a schedule that requires you to go out in unfavorable conditions is probably the most important consideration.
to the davits terminating with a yoke attached to the davits with soft shackles; we place our fenders between the RIB and the stern as cushions to prevent chafing; we secure the dingy with fiddle block tackle rather than the tie downs that Kato gives you. This is the most important part as the side to side motion at sea requires that the dingy be totally secured to prevent damage to the dingy, stern railing and the davits themselves. Don't sail an a schedule that requires you to go out in unfavorable conditions is probably the most important consideration.
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10 years 2 months ago #4745
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Hayden Cochran
IP35-165 Island Spirit
IslandSpirit35.blogspot.com
Rock Hall, MD
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Joseph:
We carry an AB 10 VL RIB on the Kato davits offshore all the time. We have run this many many miles offshore. The davits can take it, each arm is rated at 300 lbs. We do have the backing straps that pull from the top stern rail to the seat back this adds extra bracing. Like mentioned already, the real keys are strapping down the dinghy so it will not move all offshore. Here is how we do it.
1. Life the dinghy as high as it will go.
2. Hang fenders between stern rail and dinghy
3. Use 15 foot ratcheted trailer tie downs. Attache ratchet to the top stern rail, toss 15 foot strap over the dinghy, reach under with a boat hook and pull it back hook it to the lower stern rail. Now Ratchet it tight up against the stern rail.
4. Add two lines to the dinghy long enough to go bow to stern. Tie bow line to opposite davit and tie stern line to opposite davit. THIS IS THE KEY offshore. These crisscrossed lines pull the dinghy to port and then pull it to starboard. I place as much force on these lines as I can. Then when sailing offshore, one will be loose, take it up. These are the trick to keeping the dinghy from moving side to side. This is a must
5. Place any extra lines, bow lines, lifting lines, etc, under any chafe area of the ratchet straps.
NOTE:
We lift the dinghy first, then lift the ladder which will be sorta facing aft and under the dinghy. We do this so if someone falls overboard, of if you want to go for a swim without lowering the dinghy, then you can drop the ladder and not deal with the dinghy. We can climb under the dinghy and into the cockpit with the dinghy in the davits. It is something to try out.
Note 2:
We never leave the engine on the dinghy offshore, we do for coastal work, and we have a 75 lnbd 15 hp Yamaha!
We never leave the 6 gallon fuel tank in offshore.
We never leave the dinghy anchor in offshore.
Just the dinghy in the davits offshore, and this is 110 lbs, no problem.
Our roughest offshore legs have been from Cape May NJ to Block Island. Only once did we have waves kissing the bottom of the dinghy.
If I were crossing oceans, then I would place the AB 10 foot dinghy on deck, for Gulf Stream crossing, no problem. Empty it, lift it, ratchet it down, and cross tie it and you are good to go.
Here is my PHOTO ESSAY on how to tie down the AB Dinghy in Davits:
www.ipyoa.com/photos?view=album&aid=148
Hayden....anchored in the Exuams
We carry an AB 10 VL RIB on the Kato davits offshore all the time. We have run this many many miles offshore. The davits can take it, each arm is rated at 300 lbs. We do have the backing straps that pull from the top stern rail to the seat back this adds extra bracing. Like mentioned already, the real keys are strapping down the dinghy so it will not move all offshore. Here is how we do it.
1. Life the dinghy as high as it will go.
2. Hang fenders between stern rail and dinghy
3. Use 15 foot ratcheted trailer tie downs. Attache ratchet to the top stern rail, toss 15 foot strap over the dinghy, reach under with a boat hook and pull it back hook it to the lower stern rail. Now Ratchet it tight up against the stern rail.
4. Add two lines to the dinghy long enough to go bow to stern. Tie bow line to opposite davit and tie stern line to opposite davit. THIS IS THE KEY offshore. These crisscrossed lines pull the dinghy to port and then pull it to starboard. I place as much force on these lines as I can. Then when sailing offshore, one will be loose, take it up. These are the trick to keeping the dinghy from moving side to side. This is a must
5. Place any extra lines, bow lines, lifting lines, etc, under any chafe area of the ratchet straps.
NOTE:
We lift the dinghy first, then lift the ladder which will be sorta facing aft and under the dinghy. We do this so if someone falls overboard, of if you want to go for a swim without lowering the dinghy, then you can drop the ladder and not deal with the dinghy. We can climb under the dinghy and into the cockpit with the dinghy in the davits. It is something to try out.
Note 2:
We never leave the engine on the dinghy offshore, we do for coastal work, and we have a 75 lnbd 15 hp Yamaha!
We never leave the 6 gallon fuel tank in offshore.
We never leave the dinghy anchor in offshore.
Just the dinghy in the davits offshore, and this is 110 lbs, no problem.
Our roughest offshore legs have been from Cape May NJ to Block Island. Only once did we have waves kissing the bottom of the dinghy.
If I were crossing oceans, then I would place the AB 10 foot dinghy on deck, for Gulf Stream crossing, no problem. Empty it, lift it, ratchet it down, and cross tie it and you are good to go.
Here is my PHOTO ESSAY on how to tie down the AB Dinghy in Davits:
www.ipyoa.com/photos?view=album&aid=148
Hayden....anchored in the Exuams
Hayden Cochran
IP35-165 Island Spirit
IslandSpirit35.blogspot.com
Rock Hall, MD
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10 years 2 months ago #4751
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We have been to the Bahamas nine times on two different IP's with Kato Davits. Two different RIBs both in the 110 # class. I agree with Hayden's recommendations. For shooting across from Fla we leave all the junk in the dink. For long passages to and from NC we empty it. The 15hp Yamaha is always off. The danger isn't the dink's weight on the davits or the stern - - the danger is that it will be filled by a boarding wave. A dink load of water will cause all kinds of terrible problems. It can't drain fast enough ( always have the plug out) to protect the davits and rail assembly, also make sure that your trash bags stay away from the drain. It is a great dumpster but a big rain with a trash bag blocking the drain will fill it if it can't drain. I figure that a good splash with ten gallons of water is about the limit if the dink is empty. If you want to be really safe - hang it upside down. We did this on our first trip on our IP350 from the Bahamas to Charleston. Upside down it can't collect water. it looks dumb but it felt safe. One thing that we do, and make sure we brief the crew about is to............be prepared to cut it lose. No cables or chains, just lines, and a good rigging knife close at hand Talking it through before the actual need will keep anyone from delaying when the boat is at risk and everything is going the heck in a hand basket.
Good luck - I hope this helps.
George
Good luck - I hope this helps.
George
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