Staysail Removal

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16 years 4 days ago #406 by Galileo
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Having removed the Staysail boom, which has considerably improved foredeck usesage, I am now considering entirely removing the Stsysail on our IP 37. Has anyone tried this on this model IP?

To determine if I would be happy with this arrangement, my thought would be to first unfasten the Shaeffer furler at its base and swing it sideways and temporally fasten it to the lifelines on one side or the other and try sailing that way.

If that seems acceptable I would then remove the furler entirely. What I noticed from the Shaeffer manual however, is that the airfoil encapsulating the Staysail stay is glued together in sections, which if I unfasten the entire Stailsail from the top, I will have to carefully bring this entire assembly down so as to not bent the airfoil. Or I will have to remove the stay from the furler, undo the end fitting from the stay cable and then slide the various airfoil sections off the stay cable. Lot of work maybe.

Another thing I noticed when looking up the mast is that the fitting on the mast for the top of the Staysail would now be protruding forward and be in a position to perhaps do damage
to the leech and/or part of the Jib. Also, there is the Deck/Steaming Light fixture that would then be vulnerable to the leech of the Jib. Our Jib is the standard IP 130 cut, so its leech may come back this far to touch these areas as I look at the various line drawings in my IP 37 manuals.

I am well aware of the attributes of the Staysail having experienced its use under a variety of wind conditions. Am trying to improve our tacking ability which may not be totally neccesary, so I am in somewaht of a quandry. Currently we use the roll up the Jib partially technique, tack, then bring it back out.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.


Larry & Gerry Rossi
s/v Galileo IP 37-44

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16 years 3 days ago #407 by hayden
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Larry:
I have removed the cutter boom on day one of ownership on IP35-165 back in 2001. The boom is not needed. I kept the cutter sail and do use it offshore or in motoring on 25+ knot winds. I cannot see any advantage to removing the cutter sail after removing the boom because it does work so well in strong winds. As for tacking like a J35 race boat, if that is important, then simply roll out the cutter, strap it in hard, and then tack the jenny. This will keep it from wrapping on the cutter stay. For me, that works well if I have a lot of tacking. Most of the time, we are on long legs and not tacking, so it is really a non issue.

You are right about the foils, they slide off the stay, but the segments are glued. It could be difficult to due and not do damages to the foils.

I would stop where you are, the cutter boom is gone, YAHOO. Your foredeck is now clear, and guess what, the cutter still works as needed. That is what we have done.

Hayden

Hayden Cochran
IP35-165 Island Spirit
IslandSpirit35.blogspot.com
Rock Hall, MD

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16 years 2 days ago #410 by Galileo
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Hayden,

Thanks for the inputs. We hadn't thought about rolling out the Staysail to assist in tacking. It no doubt also allows you not to loose quit so much boat speed (tad bit) as you come about.

Take care,

Larry & Gerry

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