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hayden added a photo to Stream Photos album in 2018 ISLAND PACKET FACTORY RENDEZVOUS event 15 hours 34 minutes ago

Here is a photo of Leslie and Darrell at the 2017 Rock Hall Rendezvous. We are all so lucky that these people bought the factory. Thank you both.

Here is a photo of Leslie and Darrell at the 2017 Rock Hall Rendezvous. We are all so lucky that these people bought the factory. Thank you both.
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2018 ISLAND PACKET FACTORY RENDEZVOUS

ISLAND PACKET FACTORY RENDEZVOUS. Leslie and Darrell,...

  • Thursday, 15 March 2018 12:00 AM
  • St. Petersburg Yacht Club, 11 Central Ave, St. Petersburg, FL 33701
David Tansey thanked Rosty in topic 420 Boat Speed? 15 hours 43 minutes ago
Rosty replied to the topic '420 Boat Speed?' in the forum. 16 hours 12 minutes ago

2200 to 2300 RPM. Around 7 knots. But it depends on the hull cleanliness and the prop I would guess...

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David Tansey thanked hayden in topic 420 Boat Speed? 16 hours 25 minutes ago
David Tansey thanked Rosty in topic 420 Boat Speed? 16 hours 27 minutes ago
David Tansey replied to the topic '420 Boat Speed?' in the forum. 16 hours 28 minutes ago

Vyg wrote: The new lady is, actually, on a faster side than smaller Island Packets. We hit 8 knots at about 13 to 14 knots of wind. Anything below 5 knots and you would need a dedicated light air sail. In between - your speed will vary depending on point of sail. I still would not be planning any passage counting on average speed over 6 knots, though. Hayden is right on the money here (as usually). Better safe then sorry...


What RPM do you cruise the engine on and what speed do you see?

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Rosty replied to the topic '420 Boat Speed?' in the forum. 16 hours 29 minutes ago

The new lady is, actually, on a faster side than smaller Island Packets. We hit 8 knots at about 13 to 14 knots of wind. Anything below 5 knots and you would need a dedicated light air sail. In between - your speed will vary depending on point of sail. I still would not be planning any passage counting on average speed over 6 knots, though. Hayden is right on the money here (as usually). Better safe then sorry...

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Rosty replied to the topic 'The NEW Island Packet 349' in the forum. 17 hours 56 minutes ago

I totally agree with you that current large models as nice as they are stopped being affordable especially when they have to compete with overseas offerings or used IP20 - IP440. On another hand, I think that reincarnation of IP380 would probably be a ticket for them. Large galley, ample headroom, island berth in the master cabin, tankage, stowage, build quality - there is nothing from competition that has all those features. Change the head to have a separate shower, isolate chain locker. Like a bit larger IP370 (379) What a dream boat that would be...

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hayden replied to the topic '420 Boat Speed?' in the forum. 18 hours 13 minutes ago

David:

Thank you very much. I really appreciate your kind words. Island Packet Yachts is a lifetime joy for me. Started in 1986 chartering the IP38 for a month on the Chesapeake Bay. Then 1991-2001 IP27 Cinnamon sailed every creek in the entire Chesapeake Bay. 2001-2011 IP35 Island Spirit sailing out of Rock Hall, MD and going north every summer for 2 months. Then in 2011 retired, moved onboard IP35 Island Spirit and started cruising. Five trips Maine to Key West and 6 winters in the Bahamas, we finally pushed the Thorny Path Florida to the BVIs. We have sailed on several IPs 40 and 45s MD to Bermuda and we simply LOVE the way these boats sail offshore. They are solid, safe and fast. Many say they are dogs to sail, but we have never found that to be true. I raced on a J-35 team for 8 years and I would have bought a J-120, but Radeen wanted a boat we could not race and one that was comfortable. There you go, what every you want we will get, let's just go sailing, and so we did. The IP 27 was the start.

I am very happy for you with your boat, she will teach you a lot about everything. Enjoy the adventures. There is no better life.

To show you why I like IPs offshore, check out my two best sailing videos here:

youtu.be/mnXJv1dfyQA

youtu.be/S0MzBCSYV9s

That says it all.

Hayden

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David Tansey replied to the topic '420 Boat Speed?' in the forum. 18 hours 39 minutes ago

Hayden as usual, you are the bomb. I may own an island packet thanks to you. I was a lurker for a year as my wife and I researched boats for cruising. There was so much ill-informed internet FUD on Island Packets I almost abandoned them even though they were my early choice. You and a few others had so much good information it brought me back.

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David Tansey thanked hayden in topic 420 Boat Speed? 18 hours 58 minutes ago
hayden replied to the topic '420 Boat Speed?' in the forum. 19 hours 11 minutes ago

Got it. Well, I will say that once you have winds of 15 knots, you will be at hull speed most of the time unless the sea state is high, say 3-5 feet and short say 4-6 seconds. Otherwise, under 15 knots, I would say 5-6 knots. and then when down to 5-10 knots, you will be doing 3-5 knots.

The game with passage making like this is to use an average of 6 knots for the leg, then estimate your time. Once underway, you can easily slow down at the other wend to arrive in favorable light conditions.

We use opencpn.org/ charting software on laptops and we create a route with that, then in the route planning, we can enter various speeds. It will then tell us the time it will take to run the route at that given speed. For our IP35 we use a lot of 5.5-speed planning. It has worked out well.

PS:
If you do not have opencpn.org/ then you really should look into this FREE tool. It is fantastic!

Hayden

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hayden replied to the topic 'The NEW Island Packet 349' in the forum. 19 hours 20 minutes ago

Good question.

I think the market is two fold.
#1. IP onwers that want a new boat and want to downsize from a larger IP.
#2. IP owners that have a smaller boat and want to move up.
#3. New owners that never owned an IP before and cannot afford the large 500K to 700K IPs. Here is a 35 footer for $250K new!

The other situation is that the factory is able to use existing molds and simply redesign the deck or the interior and come up with a new model for far less factory expenses than starting new with a new plug and new molds. I do think this 35 footer will work out well. I have been saying for years, that IP needed to bring back the smaller yachts, the 27, 32, 35 and start there and give up on the large yachts. The market, to me, does not seem to be there for the larger yachts when the used market is flooded with larger IPs selling a very steep discount.

The yacht I proposed years ago that I still think they could make fly, is a small IP 27-35 foot range, with an electric motor, gen set, and solar panels. This motor sailor would be perfect for those running up and down the USA East Coast and into the Bahamas. Make it IP quality, IP interior but energy efficient. What a cool idea that would be. I see that as a real near new idea.

Hayden

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David Tansey replied to the topic '420 Boat Speed?' in the forum. 19 hours 20 minutes ago

Vyg wrote: Congratulations on IP420! We just bought ours (SV "Lastochka" , hull #2) end of this summer and are still in the learning curve. We keep our boat in St. Petersburg, FL, so we are neighbors! Also planning to go South (but further - to Bahamas) around Christmas.

30 knots? The sailboat is not a transportation, it is a style of living. If you average 5 to 6 knots on a fair day you should feel content. As a friend of mine used to say - "A motorboat owner gets to wherever he wants fast. A sailboat owner is already there..." Enjoy...

Rosty


Agreed in general. However, we are planning our 1st overnight sail of 180 nautical miles to an unfamiliar harbor with a somewhat hazardous approach. One knot can make the difference in arriving in the light or dark. Hence, the question about speeds in different conditions. I now the speeds of a Beneteau in all those conditions but not my new lady.

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Rosty replied to the topic 'The NEW Island Packet 349' in the forum. 19 hours 31 minutes ago

Just wondering who would the target audience for this model be as per Island Packet? I mean, when a company decides to build a boat they surely have made some extensive marketing research, asked current owners of their yachts for some feedback etc?

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Thomas Hehz created a new topic ' Galvanic Isolation?' in the forum. 19 hours 37 minutes ago

Hello everyone,
my wife Karin and I are new to this forum and would love to participate in this great way of sharing knowledge and experience.
Our IP 485 is presently on the hard in San Carles de la Rapita/Spain after a 6 month trip from Portugal along the coastline which was beautiful.
Technically, there is always something new...
Two months back our bowthruster failed with quite an audible bang and thus also blew it's 500A fuse.
After liftout we discovered that the bowthruster's gearbox had been completely eaten away by galvanic corrosion. Just like
swiss cheese... The anodes however were still in good shape ( more than 60% left) and the timespan of only six months during which that happened leeds me to believe that we must have a shorepower problem. Also our jib's boom as well as the housing of our windlass show paint flaking and blistering.The bowthruster gearbox has really been completely destroyed. I have added some pictures to show the extent. Our prop, a Variprop, however seems undamaged. I also have the impression, that all the bad vibes are happening towards the bow of our boat.
My question is: Is a galvanic isolator installed on all the 485's as a standard, and if so, where would that be? In my documentation, there is no mention of such an installation. Or could there be a completely different problem I have to deal with?
Thanks all for a response and best wishes from Germany,

Thomas Hehz



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Rosty replied to the topic '420 Boat Speed?' in the forum. 19 hours 49 minutes ago

Congratulations on IP420! We just bought ours (SV "Lastochka" , hull #2) end of this summer and are still in the learning curve. We keep our boat in St. Petersburg, FL, so we are neighbors! Also planning to go South (but further - to Bahamas) around Christmas.

30 knots? The sailboat is not a transportation, it is a style of living. If you average 5 to 6 knots on a fair day you should feel content. As a friend of mine used to say - "A motorboat owner gets to whenever he wants fast. A sailboat owner is already there..." Enjoy...

Rosty

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