Re: IP 380 Leaking Holding Tank

How many owners of IP 380's have had a leaking holding tank? Has Island Packet assumed any resposibility for it? Brian

Good morning everyone

At last we can report on the very successful replacement of our water and holding tanks on the above boat. It was not as straight forward as could have been as the original design and construction of the boat had not allowed for work of this sort to be undertaken without major cutting up of the floor and sub structure, but we are pleased to say that the Marine Team at Mylor Yacht Harbour did a very good job for us.

The process in a nutshell was as follows ;

*Remove both glass fibre and wood floor which was glued down
*Remove water tanks which had to be cut out as impossible to remove otherwise
*Measure and order new tanks ( water tank had to be made in two, so they would fit)
*Refit and plumb in new tanks
*Replace floor and lay new holly and teak laminate flooring as the original had to be cut out and could not be reused due to damage. As we could not match existing pattern of wooden floor we had to change in all cabins and main saloon.
*The floor then had to be varnished.

The water and holding tanks were supplied by Tek Tanks and are in a food grade polythene so will not deteriorate. I must admit its wonderful to have water from the tanks without the aluminium deposits that clogged up our taps before.

It has taken a while for us to let you know what has gone on as we have now taken our boat down into the Med so we are all set for sun, sand and sea this year. We decided on this after the wet and soggy summer last year.

Please feel free to contact us if you require further information.

All the best Alan & Tricia Lane
C'est La Vie



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Where was the holding tank located on an IP 380?

We have an IP 44, and the tank was half under the forward head and half under the floor of the forward cabin. We removed the flooring, but did not want to chainsaw out the forward head, so we cut the old aluminum tank out in pieces, and put back in a 17 gallon holding tank, with an automatic Electroscan treatment system so that it would process and discharge on an ongoing basis. Has worked well until we got to the bahamas and macerator failed. thank goodness for the honey boat pump outs in GT/Stocking Island area. But I now carry a spare macerator.

We did have a word with IP re procedure on removal of holding and water tanks they sent a drawing through and then distanced themselves from the problem. I do agree with Hayden I don't think they will ever accept responsibility for the predicament we find ourselves in, a shame really it would work wonders for public relations. All the best Tricia

Agreed as to public relations. It isn't that any of us expect them to pay for it, but some engineering help on how to fix, complete with best practices solution, would go a long ways.

Any idea of the cost to replace the holding tank on the IP-40. It is not leaking but the prospective buyer is concerned

Is that This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. I left a VM for Karsten Johmson at IP. Its a 1998 IP40 and I believe the floor has to be cut

What was the total cost? I do not have a leak but have a concerned prospective buyer.

We had our holding tank and water tanks changed at the same time because we didn't want to have to take the floor up again. We used Tek Tanks in the UK and the Marine Team at Mylor Yacht Harbour Cornwall to carry out the work. Because we had to cut the floor to access the tanks we replaced all the flooring as we couldn't match the original in the UK. For more information contact 0044 (01326 372121) or www.mylor.com, all the best Tricia

I have another TP-380 (#89) with a leaking holding tank. I've seen some of the photos posted on line, but I wonder if anyone has more specific information? Where can I get the replacement tank? I usually do most work myself, but this job looks like a bear!
Thanks!
Joe

We have now used Ronco plastics marine division to fabricate a number of holding tanks for us, and they have been to perfection. They have an extensive list (450?) of sizes, and will make to any one of those for very reasonable prices. they will put the dip tubes, etc, right where you want. Problem is, you are taking out a stainless, and need to pick a size that will fit. Someone may have selected a standard size.

Good luck, we went with 15 gallon (very small) and a lectrascan treatment unit since we are seldom in no discharge zones. I am convinced it is cleaner than pumping out and letting it run through a local sewage plant.

mike

Has anyone tried a bladder tank? I replaced the leaking aluminum holding tank in my IP32 with a bladder tank about 6 years ago. I just cut up and removed the aluminum tank in the port locker under the seat, and installed the bladder using the same plumbing and vent. Six years now with no problems and no oders. Vic

I really encourage you to call the factory and get their price. It may surprise you how reasonable it is compared to using local resources for an inferior product. In your location, we used True North from the south side of Clear Lake to devise a solution for our IP 44. They did an excellent job, but it did not think to get a factory quote.

The holding tank on our 2000 IP380 is leaking. As we are in St. Petersburg, Fl I plan getting a quote from IP. Any suggestions on what else we might want to have done on a 15 year old boat? Any recommendations on other businesses in the area I might to consider for this work? Thanks to everyone for the discussion, information and suggestions. Bob

In looking at the prior descriptions of replacement, it appears that your tanks are under flooring only, and not under a fiberglass pan for a head, which simplifies the process greatly. There is a difference between the method used by IP factory and that done by others, and you should probably make that decision first.

IP builds custom tanks out of wood and glass. Others use poly tanks which are far less expensive to build, more odor free, and certainly easier to work with. A good craftsman can remove the teak flooring, which hopefully will come up as one piece from the fiberglass flooring below. Then the fiberglass flooring is cut out. All of this is done around the edges so that the edge molding hides the seams and screws that will hold it all back down.

Once the flooring is up, it should be a simple matter to remove the old tank, and fit in either a new standard tank or a custom tank. I have bought several standard tanks from Ronco, they make poly waste tanks in so many shapes and sizes you cannot believe it. Here is the link to the Ronco catalog, which is frankly a little hard to follow, Ronco Marine Catalog
But a perhaps better link is to the site that handles Ronco, Todd and some other brand (I prefer Ronco) Alternative site .

the great thing about the poly tanks is that they are made to order (the sizes are molds they have) and the fittings and tie down tabs can be placed any where.

So the first thing, I think, that you want to do, is decide which you want, the fiberglass and wood tank, or the poly tank. You are guided from there. I have some pictures of IP making a water tank to go in an IP44 like mine. But I could not find them quickly. If I find them I will post.

I've contacted IPY for a quote for replacement of and schematic of the an IP380 holding tank. If anyone has additional information on bladder tanks it would be appreciated, i.e, sources or experience using one. Thanks.