Berthing in a Marina - IP 40

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14 years 8 months ago #1067 by Barney1964
Berthing in a Marina - IP 40 was created by Barney1964
(Parts of this note also appear under 'plumbing')

Dear IP Owners,

we are seriously looking to purchase an IP 40. We have yet to set foot on one, but plan a long (ansd expensive) trip to inspect.

We have a couple of questions:

1. Plumbing - through hulls / running cabling / additional hoses under the cabin sole (the 'degree of difficulty' factor)

2. (a) Berthing at the marina when short handed (as we will be 99% of the time). How do you manage this without compromising your ship, or more importantly, your neighbour's ship!

2. (b) Getting out of the pen, stern first ... and how do you get them to 'go the right way'.... Is the prop usually right handed, so she will usually go to port (with the transverse thrust)??

Work commitments will see us limited to day / weekend sails + a bit of annual leave trips, until we cast off in a few years - so berthing will be the real 'moment of truth' for us over the next couple of years. After that, I hope to see very little of marinas as we live the dream.

Sincere thanks in anticipation of your feedback.

Wishing you fair breezes and good sailing.

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14 years 8 months ago #1072 by bchaps
Replied by bchaps on topic Re: Berthing in a Marina - IP 40
Hello Barney... and welcome to the IP Yacht Owner's Association.

I have an IP40, hull #132 and after adding new electronics, solar , A/C, Anchor wash, and more, feel somewhat qualified to speak to your first question.

1. Although I have no experience with other boats, I was somewhat disappointed to not find a wiring chase to pull wire from bow to stern. I will not lay wire in the bilge which does run the entire length, so it can be a difficult pull through lockers and holes that are already bulging with existing cables. If you are doing a major overhaul, then holes can be made larger and possibly a chase installed, particularly in difficult to access areas. Fortunately, my wife is petite and she was able to get into areas I couldn't reach. I found plumbing to be very similar. From what I understand, IP builds the hull in courses, adding all wiring and plumbing as it goes up. Makes perfect sense for construction, but can be a pita when you need to make an addition. So, I would summarize the difficulty factor at a "6-7" out of 10...not impossible, but you will be talking to yourself at times.

2a. Berthing at the marina while short handed. I assume you mean docking the boat in a slip. Neither my wife nor I ever sailed before November 2009. We took three ASA classes and then practiced, practiced, practiced. Without a doubt, docking is the most tense activity I have encountered to date, (and the closest I came to an accident at St Marys, GA). So much depends on the layout and conditions of your marina. Fortunately our marina is quite sheltered and while it can be blowing 15 -20 mph on the Neuse River, It's only doing 7 while I'm pulling into the slip. If there are no strong currents or winds, docking an IP40, even in a restricted area, can be done with one or better yet, two people. The key for us is doing it SLOWLY! I'm coming in at a slow walk speed so corrections can be gentle and if necessary my wife could "push off" a piling or, heaven forbid, another boat. As you learn how prop walk affects your boat, that characteristic can be used to your advantage. (My boat prop walks to port in reverse)

2.b Our slip works best by pulling in stern first and then while exiting the slip prop walk pulls the boat in a gentle arc to port, setting me up to drive away.

From my limited experience, the IP40 is a wonderful boat. My wife and I both love Charbonneau as a dear friend and can't wait to get back to her in another three weeks.

Bill

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14 years 2 months ago #1339 by CapnBlaine
Replied by CapnBlaine on topic Re: Berthing in a Marina - IP 40
Barney -

No boat is perfect in its plumbing/electrical access - but after working on boats for years and living aboard an IP40 for 10 years, I can tell you that the IP40 is MUCH better than most I've seen.

As for docking - I ran Charbonneau as a charter boat for 3 years in Charleston - 5' tides, 3-5 knot currents - and I exited and docked the boat by myself most of the time. I also taught several other Island Packet owners in our marina how to safely maneuver their boat in tight spaces. Let me know if I can offer any tips to you. I move these boats all the time and can teach you how to use that strong prop walk to your advantage.

Cap'n Blaine
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